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    Holy drama since the election. I am just catching up now to what has been going on this weekend. Some news sources for anyone interested:

    Watching twitter is surprisingly useful: #iranelection - Twitter Search

    Al Jazeera: Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Iran election dispute fans unrest

    BBC: BBC NEWS | Middle East | Tension ahead after Ahmadinejad re-elected
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    from Iran's Election Results Stoke Global Debate Amid Some Calls to Challenge Ahmadinejad Victory, U.S. and European Allies Commit to Engaging Tehran Over Proliferation - WSJ.com

    “Privately, a number of U.S. officials said Mr. Ahmadinejad's re-election could potentially prove helpful to Washington's efforts to build an international consensus on containing Iran's nuclear program.

    Israeli and Arab diplomats in recent weeks have expressed concern that a victory by a moderate politician, such as Mr. Mousavi, the opposition leader, could help shield Mr. Khamenei and other Iranian hard-liners from international pressure on the nuclear issue.“

    Hmm.

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    Huh that is really interesting. So Ahmedinejad is right wing *enough* to continue to inspire the concern necessary to contain the nuclear program. Whereas if the opponent (forget his name) was elected, this concern would dissipate, but given that Khameini is the guy really in charge and he is hardline, this would be a bad thing? Wow. So complicated.
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    Yeah, I think that's why the Obama administration isn't geared up to cry foul about the election tampering just yet... man, foreign policy makes me rip my hair out.

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    Yeah wild!
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    can someone PLEASE explain all this craziness to me like I'm 5?

    I don't understand ANYTHING about Iran, or Iraq, or any of the stuff going on over there. I feel so outta the loop!

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    Iran just had a presidential election, where the sitting president Ahmadinejad (sp?) won re-election. But a lot of people are saying there was tampering. Al Jazeera pointed out that the Western media interviewed a lot of people from a particular area where the majority voted for the other guy (forget his name), so the Western perspective on the amount of support he had was skewed. Who knows if there was tampering. A lot of people think there was, and now there is violence in the streets. Iran shut down cell phones in Tehran (the capital) and facebook/twitter as well, now cell phones are back up but texting still down.

    They have a dual political system where there is a democratically (supposedly) elected president, and a Supreme Leader chosen by God (I think?), the Ayatollah. The Ayatollah is the most powerful leader in Iran.

    Iran is an Islamic Republic and I believe the second most religious nation in the Middle East, second to Saudi Arabia. Ahmedinejad is not well loved by the US in the least - he spoke at Berkley?? I think it was?? a couple of years ago and said very negative things about the US, calling it a bully and immoral, etc.

    eta - Irans political system explained here: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...422655588.html
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    hrm. interesting. Ok. thanks Myrrah!

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    I have been watching the stream on twitter all weekend. Sad and scary for Iran.
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    Wow that is a really interesting article Clevs.

    It's interesting the Western slant here. Obviously Mousavi would be better from our standpoint, and I see buzzwords about 'freedom' in this article and in a lot of the press on this issue. But from what I learned in my Mid East class last year, Islamism is really revolutionary in its own right in some ways, a rejection of Westernization and all that comes with it: secularism, materialism, loss of community, etc. And Iran is an Islamic Republic ever since the 1979 revolution. It is also Shia, and its Islam is Twelver Shiism - they believe the Imam will return one day and Islam will take over the planet, bringing peace upon all, and the Imam who brings this change will be the leader of Iran.

    Its hard for me to sort out who is protesting here, and what the Western spin is. I'm finding it confusing!

    Apparently twitter is one of the few streams getting information out of the country right now.
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    this is another interesting one: The New York Times > Log In
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    It's so interesting! Theocracy in general just rattles my brain a bit. Mostly, I find the idea of spearheading a religious revolution before taking care of the population's most basic needs to be counter-intuitive at best. Where are Islam's cooler heads, and when will they start prevailing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myrrah View Post
    this is another interesting one: The New York Times > Log In
    I posted this on FB, thanks for the link. It's incredibly well written.

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    Well one of the pillars of Islam is giving to those who are in need. Islam is actually pretty socialist, and some people connect moving away from Islam to moving towards Western style economics, 'bootstraps' thinking, and elitism...
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