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    DS is EBF and not able to have any solids, we are waiting on the pharmacy to get in neocate formula so we can start supplementing him, but in the mean time I am still nursing, this boy is eating every hour to two hours, 24/7 my nipples are a mess, he has 3 teeth and has started biting he is not exactly being a gentle eater. I am not liking this at all, in fact I dread him getting hungry because it takes everything I have to actually nurse him it hurts so much. Just wearing a bra or having fabric touch them is painful. Today is the worst, I can't pump enough for him to eat although trust me I have been trying. I had a horrible time at the beginning with him because of his latch but that wasn't as bad as this, this is toe curling, makes me want to scream pain, and I have a high tolerance for pain, I have gotten stitches without freezing and it wasn't as bad as this. HELP any ideas? I can't use special creams or anything because that could cause a reaction for him.

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    what about vitamin D for infants? If you put some on your nipple maybe that will ease the pain
    also maybe a tiny bit of olive oil on your nipple and then just pad dry before feeding so that he doesn't ingest any of it
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    You poor thing!!

    I don't really have any wisdom on this, but I have heaps of sympathy for you because I had painful latch with my first, and a small biting phase with my second. (I used to immediately take him off if he bit me, and he stopped doing it after a week or so. But I remember being in tears.) Nipple guards, maybe? I know some people swear by them, but I never tried them.
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    Yes a nipple shield for breastfeeding is more work but trust me it makes a world of difference for tolerating the pain. I used one and without one would never have been able to nurse at all! All the best! You can purchase them (in case you are unaware) at Babies R Us and I believe at Walmart (mendella brand they are)
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    How old?

    I had huge issues with my DD1 for the first 2 months (very similar - just no teeth).

    And minor issues with DD2 when she knocked out her front tooth. She was accidentally shredding my nipples, would pull weird parts of the breast in through the weird gap, etc. Not actually biting, but I'd end up with teeth marks and bruising.

    Is it any less painful for you to pump? If I was in tears with DD1, I'd pump, pain was significantly lessened (manual pump).
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    Quote Originally Posted by southerngal View Post
    Yes a nipple shield for breastfeeding is more work but trust me it makes a world of difference for tolerating the pain. I used one and without one would never have been able to nurse at all! All the best! You can purchase them (in case you are unaware) at Babies R Us and I believe at Walmart (mendella brand they are)
    I tried nipple shields with kid one (about a week or 2 in), used them for a day and yeah -- huge pain in the bum, and the pain didn't improve significantly as she seemed to need to suck even harder (poorly) to get letdown.

    Can you leave the ladies out, expose them to the air? Do you have soothies?
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    Is it the biting that has caused the pain? How old is he? Why can't you give him solids?
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    I can pump some milk for you
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    If he bites don't react (I know hard!) and say gently ouch, then take him off (don't pull but out a finger in his mouth to unlatch). Don't put him on for a min or two, if he bites do the same. He will learn not to bite fast! That should help with causing more pain.

    Have you called the pharmacy at Victoria hospital? They usually stock neocate as its used in nicu a lot.

    Have the dr's figured out what's wrong? Like if it's allegies ect? Hope they can soon!

    If you want to continue nursing see a lactation specialist asap, past the first month you should have no pain! I really feel for you, there is nothing worse than not wanting to feed due to pain. Hugs to you and your little one, so frustrating for both!

    Also wanted to suggest maybe taking some time to yourself and then some time one on one with babe that doesn't revolve around feeding, something that is fun for both of you (a bath together, a walk ect) I find when I am struggling with something with my kids I can start to resent (to harsh of a word??) whatever I'm struggling with and in turn whoever I am struggling with. An activity together such as a nice bath can reconnect us and renews our relationship without all the negativity.
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    I agree with lala not to react when he bites and to say ouch and put your finger into his mouth and then pull off. Don't try to just pull off or he may clamp harder. Mine both nursed every 1-2 hours until almost a year. DS2 would bite quite a bit when he was teething so I tried to find something else to create the counter-pressure - like a cold,wet cloth. He would cry when I took him off, but I could tell he no longer wanted to eat, but want to push against his teeth, so I found other things to use, or even just used my finger to push on his gums. If I put him back on after the first bite he would only bite again and be upset, because I don't think he was hungry anymore.

    When he was a year he bit me so hard 1 day when he fell asleep nursing (so complete accident) that I was bleeding and he spit up blood later. I was terrified but emailed Dr. Jack Newman and he said it was completely fine and it was ok he was drinking some blood and that it would heal. It was SO painful for about 2 days, especially when he nursed, and then finally started to heal.
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    He is 8 months and he has FPIES easiest way to explain it is he pretty much has allergic reactions to everything we have tried to feed him so far. I do have soothies and broke them out this afternoon, I tried nipple shields but he just bit through them more. Part of the problem is the biting but he also does the turn head while nursing then kinda bite to keep the nipple in his mouth, along with the constant latch, un latch. once he is latched and my milk has let down and he has something to eat he is gentler but he is not patient waiting for my milk.

    Our neocate came in early so I will hopefully get a brake for one feed tomorrow and get some healing time. I am trying to pump it does hurt less to pump but for some reason I can only manage about 2-3 ounces. But I was sick with pnamonia a few weeks ago and my supply was pretty much gone. I am going to try going and getting the prescription that is supposed to help with milk supply and see if that helps me pumping. I don't have a lot of freedom from him since he is wanting to eat so often.

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    Poor turkey. I just googled that and it doesnt look to
    be something that lasts forever, at the very least. Let me know if you want milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by planejane View Post
    He is 8 months and he has FPIES easiest way to explain it is he pretty much has allergic reactions to everything we have tried to feed him so far. I do have soothies and broke them out this afternoon, I tried nipple shields but he just bit through them more. Part of the problem is the biting but he also does the turn head while nursing then kinda bite to keep the nipple in his mouth, along with the constant latch, un latch. once he is latched and my milk has let down and he has something to eat he is gentler but he is not patient waiting for my milk.

    Our neocate came in early so I will hopefully get a brake for one feed tomorrow and get some healing time. I am trying to pump it does hurt less to pump but for some reason I can only manage about 2-3 ounces. But I was sick with pnamonia a few weeks ago and my supply was pretty much gone. I am going to try going and getting the prescription that is supposed to help with milk supply and see if that helps me pumping. I don't have a lot of freedom from him since he is wanting to eat so often.
    Where are you nursing him? Any way you can make stuff around him less interesting so he stops trying to look around? Eg. Nurse in a dark quiet room, laying down, no weird noises rather then in front of the TV or with siblings in the room?... 2-3oz sounds great for pumping with an 8mo old. More then I was getting pumping at work when my babe was around that age. Before trying Domperidone, you could also do oatmeal and/or lactation cookies or blessed thistle/fenugeek.
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    That sounds awful. Check out Dr. Jack Newman's website and try breast compression. It will help the flow of milk and hopefully stop the biting. Domperidone worked wonders for my milk supply. I agree that seeing a lactation consultant would be a great idea.
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    Ask your dr for a prescription for Dr. Newman's All Purpose Nipple Ointment. It has an analgesic in it so REALLY helps with sore nipple pain. If you put it on after he's finished, really slather it on by the next time he wants to eat, it'll be gone and especially if you do a quick wipe-off with a warm washcloth.

    My goodness, you guys have had such a rough time. My heart hurts for you and him!
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